Your post is pretty much nonsense and unsubstantiated. Converting to BTUs is an acceptable way to see if something passes the “red faced” test in terms of whether or not it is possible. And on-board HHO generators using car alternators in all forms, fail that test.

The list of exposed charlatans grows and grows, but unfortunately there is always someone ready to jump in and say that their product or approach–unlike Dennis Lee or David or Carmine or Ronn Maxwell or “fill-in-the-blank”–does actually work and they have third-party proof which never seems to materialize. The convinctions, lawsuits, lost investments, FTC filings and broken dreams keep stacking up, but real proof never seems to show. And while I am sure that your experience as a handyman on Hilton Head Island allows you to do some pretty amazing things, somehow I think you are still limited by the laws of physics just like the rest of us. (Just a guess.) And your filing for the domain HHOfluids.com leads me to believe that you have a less than removed interest in commenting on posts critical of these largely illegal devices.

I wanted to chime in about your discoveries regarding Dave and Carmine from Hydro4000, both of whom I know one on one.

You’ve covered their MLM schemes, LLC schemes and what they’ve brandished on the uneducated public of which you really need to include yourself, Bob.

Try for a moment to separate the process of Browns gas (HHO) and internal combustion and ruthless marketeers.

As marketeers David and Carmine are as effective as they get. They took a product that was and still is manufactured in California by National Vapor http://nationalvapor.com/ and were able to go global with it. Unfortunately they never gave the product a thorough testing before hand. The products began to overheat and fail due to design flaws and in durability. Carmine for sure and maybe David were well aware of these issues but kept selling at astonishing levels until there were no more dupes left to dupe. David has admitted to me in person and Carmine over the phone that the product was and still is “BAD”, this includes the unit that is still available on the hydro4000 website which is a knock off of the NVI unit.

They and anything they do in business
SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED!!!

Now Bob…. about your BTU analysis

This is where armchair engineers, registered, certified or not such as yourself, open your mouths and insert your foot and rotate it clockwise. You speak with the same authoritative thunderclap as the Hyro4000 guys to discredit something you have absolutely NO experience with. Bob says “BTU” and puts some numbers behind it that adds to the confusion on an unsuspecting public!

Bob, I understand that other than spelling your name backwards, you mean well but please for the sake of your disciples do some more technical homework before spittling all over the glass, it fogs the truth.

There are numerous studies by various certified laboratories as well as people in their garages that have built and tested with positive to outstanding results these gas generators.

Yours truly

Alex Ryzy-Ryski
Clean Batteries MFG
HHI, SC